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Post by lyonsee on Jul 10, 2006 19:36:02 GMT
Really loving the whole Peter storyline that looks as if it's about to get going just now. Just like last summer the writers are keeping us guessing as to what the hell is going on. I can't figure out for the life of me what exactly he's up to, who he might be working for and what his motivation is. Are we sure he's a bad guy? I'm not entirely convinced although it's certainly what we are being led to believe.
Must say I really like Constable Jack Holden as a character. He's strong but sensitive without being a complete sap like the Dan Bakers and Scott Hunters of this world. Loved the way he passed on what his dad said to him about Beth to the police because it was the right thing to do and the fact that he's still trying to uncover what Peter is up to despite Peter's promise to ruin his career if he interferes. I'm really beginning to fancy Martha too.
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Post by lyonsee on Jul 10, 2006 19:37:11 GMT
Oh and I've said it before but I'll say it again - why the devils isn't Morag in the opening credits? She's an absolute legend.
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 10, 2006 21:06:19 GMT
Really loving the whole Peter storyline that looks as if it's about to get going just now. Just like last summer the writers are keeping us guessing as to what the hell is going on. I can't figure out for the life of me what exactly he's up to, who he might be working for and what his motivation is. Are we sure he's a bad guy? I'm not entirely convinced although it's certainly what we are being led to believe. Must say I really like Constable Jack Holden as a character. He's strong but sensitive without being a complete sap like the Dan Bakers and Scott Hunters of this world. Loved the way he passed on what his dad said to him about Beth to the police because it was the right thing to do and the fact that he's still trying to uncover what Peter is up to despite Peter's promise to ruin his career if he interferes. I'm really beginning to fancy Martha too. i reckon Peter knows the stalker is still alive and is conducting his own private investigation because he doesn't want word to get out as it would drive the bay into panic. The writers are cleverly making us question whether Peter is good/bad, a bit like with the undercover drug operation last year. |
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Post by bandage on Jul 11, 2006 8:04:12 GMT
i reckon Peter knows the stalker is still alive and is conducting his own private investigation because he doesn't want word to get out as it would drive the bay into panic. The writers are cleverly making us question whether Peter is good/bad, a bit like with the undercover drug operation last year. Exactly. Totally agree with this. Disagree totally about Jack Holden. He's a boring dogooder and a drip and another Scott Hunter in the making. His dad is awful too and his younger brother is Scott markII. His only saving grace is that he's a cop so will be involved in the stalker storyline and so will have opportunity to redeem himself. |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 11, 2006 8:17:28 GMT
i reckon Peter knows the stalker is still alive and is conducting his own private investigation because he doesn't want word to get out as it would drive the bay into panic. The writers are cleverly making us question whether Peter is good/bad, a bit like with the undercover drug operation last year. Exactly. Totally agree with this. Disagree totally about Jack Holden. He's a boring dogooder and a drip and another Scott Hunter in the making. His dad is awful too and his younger brother is Scott markII. His only saving grace is that he's a cop so will be involved in the stalker storyline and so will have opportunity to redeem himself. I don't agree with you there. Jack comes across like a drip alright but by Christ he's not afraid to make tough decisions. The man won't be compromised on his policing and if he remains true to his badge then we'll see fireworks in the future. I don't think his father brings much to the party but I don't hate him because he's peripheral. The younger brother is pretty useless alright but again I think he's just filler. I don't see him hanging onto Matilda long-term. |
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Post by bandage on Jul 11, 2006 12:14:37 GMT
I think the scriptwriters deserve tremendous credit yet again. I can't believe the bad press the show gets from some on here, it is truly astounding drama and up there with the best TV series and films I've ever seen. I think we'll end up with Peter and Jack working together on the stalker case in secret so as not to cause widescale fear and panic throughout The Bay and up as far as Mangrove River and Yabbey Creek. I like the way they are subtley trying to get the viewer to suspect Peter's up to no good. Bringing in the fact that he scored his brother's wife and displaying a less honest side to him. The fact is Peter Baker won't be compromised. Simple as that.
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 11, 2006 12:57:33 GMT
Peter Baker the man is formed from two very different personas. On the one side you have the consummate professional Peter - loves his work and will do whatever it takes to protect the people of Summer Bay, even if that means going undercover, lying, hiding things from his colleagues and forcing his personal life to take a back seat. On the other side you have the foolish and unlucky in love Peter. He had it all with Claire in the city and he threw it away. He fell in love with two other women, one was married to his brother, the other was within his grasp until he entered a coma......and then she......married his brother...... Peter's disaster of a personal life was epitomised when he called around to Leah's house, after he heard she and Dan had broken up, to see if she was ok even though she had previously made it clear she wanted nothing to do with him.....the poor guy just hasn't got a clue, bless him. Reckon him or Dan will end up banging Rachel - probably Dan who'll marry her and then Peter will bang her after the honeymoon when he realises it's him she should be with, not his brother.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 11, 2006 12:58:51 GMT
I think the scriptwriters deserve tremendous credit yet again. I can't believe the bad press the show gets from some on here, it is truly astounding drama and up there with the best TV series and films I've ever seen. I think we'll end up with Peter and Jack working together on the stalker case in secret so as not to cause widescale fear and panic throughout The Bay and up as far as Mangrove River and Yabbey Creek. I like the way they are subtley trying to get the viewer to suspect Peter's up to no good. Bringing in the fact that he scored his brother's wife and displaying a less honest side to him. The fact is Peter Baker won't be compromised. Simple as that. I agree with everyone here who is suggesting that Peter's supposed sinister side is a distraction. What I'm not sure about is the last part: "Peter Baker won't be compromised." I wish that was the case but time and again in the past he has abandoned due process and accepted methodology - particularly in pursuit of the stalker. He has placed countless lives in peril from his secretive methods. I think he is well intentioned but I'm not sure he's that great a cop. Compare him to Jack. Jack had a hunch that Beth wasn't involved in the "murder" of her father. He voiced his instincts to Peter but he didn't let them cloud the issue. He was present during the interviews and didn't interfere with the process. Peter is all about instinct. Jack recognises the importance of a gut feeling but he knows how to play by the book. And the book gets results. |
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 11, 2006 13:10:27 GMT
I think the scriptwriters deserve tremendous credit yet again. I can't believe the bad press the show gets from some on here, it is truly astounding drama and up there with the best TV series and films I've ever seen. I think we'll end up with Peter and Jack working together on the stalker case in secret so as not to cause widescale fear and panic throughout The Bay and up as far as Mangrove River and Yabbey Creek. I like the way they are subtley trying to get the viewer to suspect Peter's up to no good. Bringing in the fact that he scored his brother's wife and displaying a less honest side to him. The fact is Peter Baker won't be compromised. Simple as that. I agree with everyone here who is suggesting that Peter's supposed sinister side is a distraction. What I'm not sure about is the last part: "Peter Baker won't be compromised." I wish that was the case but time and again in the past he has abandoned due process and accepted methodology - particularly in pursuit of the stalker. He has placed countless lives in peril from his secretive methods. I think he is well intentioned but I'm not sure he's that great a cop. Compare him to Jack. Jack had a hunch that Beth wasn't involved in the "murder" of her father. He voiced his instincts to Peter but he didn't let them cloud the issue. He was present during the interviews and didn't interfere with the process. Peter is all about instinct. Jack recognises the importance of a gut feeling but he knows how to play by the book. And the book gets results. jack hasn't been around long enough to use instinct, he still has to consult the coppers' manual (he knows the code of ethics off by heart). he's a bit of a nonce but i'm starting to like him and i reckon he'll have a big role in "the stalker part II" |
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Post by bandage on Jul 11, 2006 18:20:06 GMT
A fantastic episode tonight with Jack following Peter to his hideout then coming back late at night to break in when he thought nobody would be around and so he'd eventually find out what was in there. As he sought to open the door of the shed with a crow bar he was knocked out cold by a blow from behind - the camera panned around to a shot of Peter Baker standing over his prone body. Again adding to the illusion that Peter's up to no good but I still think he's working undercover. As other posters have said he tends to go off on solo runs so maybe eventually it'll be good for him and the Bay were him and Constable Holden to work together. Nice to see Kim and Rachel get together too - I just hope their blossoming romance doesn't compromise her career though. Gutted to be told at 4pm today that I've to go to a meeting in London tomorrow. My first thought was of missing Home and Away.  |
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 13, 2006 10:13:04 GMT
Finally had the pleasure of watching the episode of Flynn's death last night. Heart rending stuff, superbly written and superb acting. Had to force myself to hold back the tears, because Flynn would have wanted me to be strong.....and there was another person in the room..
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Post by bandage on Jul 13, 2006 10:41:15 GMT
Excellent - you must allow me watch that episode on your fancy new laptop later. Heard the Peter Baker mystery deepened last night.
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 13, 2006 10:48:33 GMT
actually didn't deepen, it became clearer to the viewer what he's up to. Jack is more confused and suspicious, although he apologised to Peter for doubting him.....smart move as it keeps Peter off his back. I inadvertently read ahead while on the H&A website this morning and learned of a terrible event, fooking raging as it would have been a great shock. So pissed off i might even ruin it for everyone else.......  |
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Post by bandage on Jul 13, 2006 10:58:00 GMT
I inadvertently read ahead while on the H&A website this morning and learned of a terrible event, fooking raging as it would have been a great shock. So pissed off i might even ruin it for everyone else....... Do and you're dead. Worse than that we'll bar you from the website.  That's why I don't read the website anymore. I had read about the Tash storyline ages ago and that the stalker wasn't dead so now I steer clear of it.  |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 11:10:28 GMT
Worse, I went on to the backtothebay site a while back and there is a fan fiction section where the fans write their own stories. Christ some of them are bad but by reading the start of one of them I learned all about Tasha. I was hoping it was something the nerd had made up as part of his story but it was all about love so I knew he hadn't the capability to write something sinister.
Do not tell us about the "terrible event" because I'm already starting to guess about it. I'm praying for Scott to come back to the Bay and for Dan to flee some gambling debts that he owes to Peter and Leah so he drives away and crashes into Scott on the horse and the three of them are killed. I'd settle for anything that requires orange jumpsuits though.
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 13, 2006 12:22:58 GMT
i wouldn't be that cruel, i won't even tell you what storyline it relates to.  i also accidently saw some stuff about tash....presume its the same as what you saw, unless you're referring to what you saw a few months ago and the stuff has already happened i wouldn't mind but i was only reading some background on the characters them i'm like wait now when did this shit happen.....oh fook this site is about 6 months ahead |
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Post by steamboatsam on Jul 18, 2006 8:13:04 GMT
cracking entertainment yesterday with Kim and Rachel expressing their love for eachother. Remarkable commitment to the relationship from Rachel who wanted to give up 6 years of studying to become a doctor/surgeon/counsellor (general medical multitasker like everyone in that hospital) to continue her WEEK long love affair! quality
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Post by bandage on Jul 18, 2006 8:23:41 GMT
It was absolutely gas alright. 'But I love him.' Yes, he's 19 and you're in your late 20s and he was one of the patients you counselled. After their ONE WEEK relationship she's going to give up her career for the youngster. It really tugged at my heartstrings. I love when in the odd episode there is real comic value that is actually totally unintentional.
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 18, 2006 11:04:24 GMT
Cant believe ye fucking 12 year old idiots are still watching that shoite.
are ye actually seriously fans of it, or is this the longest wind up ever?
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Post by bandage on Jul 18, 2006 12:27:15 GMT
Cant believe ye fucking 12 year old idiots are still watching that shoite. are ye actually seriously fans of it, or is this the longest wind up ever? Well, I'm a die hard fan of the show. Always have been and always will. I think we probably should unsticky this topic now though. The show's popularity will ensure it stays up at the top anyway. |
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 18, 2006 12:29:04 GMT
Glad to hear it
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Post by bandage on Jul 18, 2006 19:45:30 GMT
Tonight's episode disappointed me somewhat. It was unfortunate to see the Bay's male characters showing a distinct lack of balls.
Tash fooks off to a commune, tells Robbie she never wants to see him anymore then realises (eventually) it's actually a cult, comes back home with her tail between her legs and five minutes later he asks her to marry him.
Cassie is ashamed/embarrassed because Ric has a job as a cleaner and is being a complete snob. She goes off on one because she sees another girl try to kiss him even though he did nothing wrong, he apologises and tells the other girl he'll never even see her again as a friend so as not to upset Cassie.
Finally, Dan has been giving Sally a shoulder to cry on after the unfortunate passing of Flynn (rip) yet his ex-wife, who cheated on him, goes off on one for spending too much time with her and forbids him from seeing his step-son. Silly cow.
Alf Stewart's in prison a week and the Bay is going to the shit.
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Post by lyonsee on Jul 18, 2006 22:06:36 GMT
Tonight's episode disappointed me somewhat. It was unfortunate to see the Bay's male characters showing a distinct lack of balls. Tash fooks off to a commune, tells Robbie she never wants to see him anymore then realises (eventually) it's actually a cult, comes back home with her tail between her legs and five minutes later he asks her to marry him. Have to say I really liked seeing them back together, for they are lobsters you see. Call me a sentimental romantic fool, I don't care.Cassie is ashamed/embarrassed because Ric has a job as a cleaner and is being a complete snob. She goes off on one because she sees another girl try to kiss him even though he did nothing wrong, he apologises and tells the other girl he'll never even see her again as a friend so as not to upset Cassie. Cassie was definitely a bit of a geebag about the whole situation but at the same time I can see why she sould worry. Ric's a catch (definitely my favourite of the younger characters) and the pair have clearly been experiencing communication problems.Finally, Dan has been giving Sally a shoulder to cry on after the unfortunate passing of Flynn (rip) yet his ex-wife, who cheated on him, goes off on one for spending too much time with her and forbids him from seeing his step-son. Silly cow. Leah is a silly cow. Much as I hate Dan she's treating him really poorly. Hope she gets hit by a bus.Alf Stewart's in prison a week and the Bay is going to the shit. Wonder how much we're going to get to see of him on the inside. |
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Post by lyonsee on Jul 18, 2006 22:07:58 GMT
Crud, that didn't work - thought my ramblings would come up outside of Bandage's quotes. I'll modify my post and highlight in red.
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Post by lyonsee on Jul 18, 2006 22:11:15 GMT
P.S. Belle has potential - a very pretty girl. Presumably will end up with Ric at some point.
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i also accidently saw some stuff about tash....presume its the same as what you saw, unless you're referring to what you saw a few months ago and the stuff has already happened
