1966 Reasons why I don't want Englan to win WC2006

[stickywithoutjam]

Eamo- wot a fool you are.

I when 15-1 was laid to rest, it was the highlight of my day for many years and I was bereft every season it was substituted for daft quizzes like Runway and other gimmicky quizzes who could never match the simple brilliance that was 15-1 & William G. Stewart.

No faffing around hearing people's life stories and getting to know them- it simple was your name, occupation & where you are from ( or where you are now & originally from) and waiting for someone to smile and wave during intro bit whereby Laura narrates the details of these modern day jousting Knights into battle.

William G. Stewart was a quiz master bar none- simple, warm when necessary and there was never a need to repeat the question with him.

Don't start me on the genius of the show's concept- 15-to-1, it did what it said on the tin! 15 combatants down to one and not only was it a matter of knowledge but of wits also- to nominate and risk loosing a life, or should I get points for the leaderboard, who should I nominated?- I could see it in their faces everyday of the week- tough decisions had to be made, it was then during my adolescence I realized the world was no Blackboard Jungle, life is tough, full of tough decisions and it was through this micrcosm of life I got where I am today, it was Social Darwinism in action!

Forget the Million Dollar questions, these Champions fought out for a much underrated value today- honour. There were no fancy caravans, boats (like bullseye) but a rare ancient world artefact was the one and only prize, (presented by the lovely Laura BTW).

Sir- you know nothing about 15-to-1

[eamo]

eamo said:

bandage said:

710. Giving us hour after hour and day after day of Friends repeats.
711. Replacing 15 to 1 - I miss William G Stewart.

The good (711) and bad (710) in Bandage

Hold on Sticky. I was actually saying that Bandage's inclusion of the cancellation of 15 to 1 was justified. I loved that show as well. A proper quiz with none of that old nonsense of the Weakest Link and the likes..

But he was slagging off Friends......

[eamo]

775. The Weakest Link
776. Anne Robinson for thinking anyone is scared of her
777. All those who think the thrill of their life is to meet her and get told off by her

Reminds me of when she guest presented Have I Got News for You. Merton was ripping the piss out of her and she tried to comeback with 'Ok that's another point away from Paul's team'. Merton replied 'You can do what you want luv - I dont care!'

Put the bitch in her place.
She once claimed that Charlie Haughey groped her apparently

[stickywithoutjam]

eamo said:

eamo said:

The good (711) and bad (710) in Bandage

Hold on Sticky. I was actually saying that Bandage's inclusion of the cancellation of 15 to 1 was justified. I loved that show as well. A proper quiz with none of that old nonsense of the Weakest Link and the likes..

But he was slagging off Friends......

I retract everything I said and redirect it wholly at that Charlatan Bandage (althought don't go about that Friends thing).

[therock67]

778. If England win the world cup then Germany won't and my bet won't materialise so I won't get 250 Euro from Eamo
779. If my bet doesn't materialise Eamo will have a smug grin on his face for winning a 50/1 shot and won't appreciate the fact that 50/1 was good value all along.
780. If Germany don't win the world cup there is a good chance Eamo will put the fiver towards buying a box set of a Friends series.

[eamo]

admin said:

778. If England win the world cup then Germany won't and my bet won't materialise so I won't get 250 Euro from Eamo
779. If my bet doesn't materialise Eamo will have a smug grin on his face for winning a 50/1 shot and won't appreciate the fact that 50/1 was good value all along.
780. If Germany don't win the world cup there is a good chance Eamo will put the fiver towards buying a box set of a Friends series.

Interesting slant on the whole debate. But if Holland (for example) win the World Cup, I still get the fiver and could spend it on a Friends box set! So therefore the debate should be 1,966 reasonS why I dont want anybody but Germany to win WC2006 ...

[therock67]

They are still justifiable reasons for me to not want England to win the world cup. The success of the Netherlands is irrelevant to this thread. England winning the world cup would have a guaranteed negative financial impact for me and a guaranteed positive financial impact for you. The above reasons are corollaries of this situation.

[eamo]

admin said:

They are still justifiable reasons for me to not want England to win the world cup. The success of the Netherlands is irrelevant to this thread. England winning the world cup would have a guaranteed negative financial impact for me and a guaranteed positive financial impact for you. The above reasons are corollaries of this situation.

Leave it off will you.... its Friday evening

[therock67]

Not trying to be argumentative here - just felt they were reasons for me personally to not want England to win the world cup. Plenty on the list I don't agree with (Paul Merton for one)

[bandage]

I'm worried we're not going to make it - less than three weeks to go now. I suggest everybody prioritises this thread as a matter of urgency:

781. That new quiz with Noel Edmonds on after Countdown. Ridiculous stuff.

[eamo]

Think that we should start doing something like this

782.Yorkshire
783 Lincolnshire
784 Devon
785 Norfolk
786 Northumberland
787 Lancashire
788 Hampshire
789 Kent
790 Essex
791 Cumberland
792 Suffolk
793 Sussex
794 Wiltshire
795 Cornwall
796 Shropshire
797 Gloucestershire
798 Staffordshire
799 Derbyshire
800 Cheshire
801 County Durham
802 Northamptonshire
803 Dorset
804 Warwickshire
805 Herefordshire
806 Nottinghamshire
807 Cambridgeshire
808 Leicestershire
809 Westmorland
810 Surrey
811 Oxfordshire
812 Buckinghamshire
813 Worcestershire
814 Hertfordshire
815 Berkshire
816 Bedfordshire
817 Huntingdonshire
818 Middlesex
819 Rutland

[therock67]

820 Anguilla
821 Bermuda
822 British Antarctic Territory
823 British Indian Ocean Territory
824 British Virgin Islands
825 Cayman Islands
826 Montserrat
827 Pitcairn Islands
828 Saint Helena (Ascension, Tristan da Cunha)
829 South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
830 Turks and Caicos Islands

[steamboatsam]

831 Harry Bradshaw
832 Raby Howell
833 Joe McQue
834 Malcolm McVean
835 Alex Raisbeck
836 Ted Doig
837 Arthur Goddard
838 Sam Hardy
839 Jack Parkinson
840 Sam Raybould
841 Tom Bromilow
842 Harry Chambers
843 Dick Forshaw
844 Bill Lacey
845 Ephraim Longworth
846 Donald McKinlay
847 Elisha Scott
848 Gordon Hodgson
849 Fred Hopkin
850 James Jackson
851 Jack Balmer
852 Ernest Blenkinsop
853 Tom Cooper
854 Willie Fagan
855 Alf Hanson
856 Berry Nieuwenhuys
857 Phil Taylor
858 Cyril Done
859 Laurie Hughes
860 Bill Jones
861 Ray Lambert
862 Billy Liddell
863 Bob Paisley
864 Jimmy Payne
865 Cyril Sidlow
866 Eddie Spicer
867 Albert Stubbins
868 Alan A'Court
869 Alan Arnell
870 Gerry Byrne
871 Bobby Campbell
872 Dave Hickson
873 Roger Hunt
874 Tommy Leishman
875 Jimmy Melia
876 Ronnie Moran
877 Bert Slater
878 Geoff Twentyman
879 Dick White
880 Johnny Wheeler
881 Tommy Younger
882 Alf Arrowsmith
883 Phil Boersma
884 Ian Callaghan
885 Ray Clemence
886 Alun Evans
887 Phil Ferns
888 Jim Furnell
889 Bobby Graham
890 Brian Hall
891 Tony Hateley
892 Chris Lawler
893 Tommy Lawrence
894 Kevin Lewis
895 Alec Lindsay
896 Doug Livermore
897 Larry Lloyd
898 Gordon Milne
899 John McLaughlin
900 Ian Ross
901 Tommy Smith
902 Willie Stevenson
903 Ian St.John
904 Geoff Strong
905 Peter Thompson
906 Peter Wall
907 Gordon Wallace
908 Ron Yeats
909 Jimmy Case
910 Avi Cohen
911 Peter Cormack
912 David Fairclough
913 Steve Heighway
914 Colin Irwin
915 David Johnson
916 Joey Jones
917 Kevin Keegan
918 Brian Kettle
919 Alan Kennedy
920 Ray Kennedy
921 Sammy Lee
922 Phil Neal
923 Steve Ogrizovic
924 Trevor Storton
925 Phil Thompson
926 Alan Waddle
927 Gary Ablett
928 John Barnes
929 Peter Beardsley
930 Dave Burrows
931 Howard Gayle
932 Gary Gillespie
933 David Hodgson
934 Mike Hooper
935 Glenn Hysen
936 Craig Johnston
937 Kevin MacDonald
938 Mike Marsh
939 Steve McMahon
940 Richard Money
941 Steve Nicol
942 Michael Robinson
943 Nigel Spackman
944 Paul Walsh
945 John Wark

[bandage]

steamboatsam said:

831 Harry Bradshaw
832 Raby Howell
833 Joe McQue
834 Malcolm McVean
835 Alex Raisbeck
836 Ted Doig
837 Arthur Goddard
838 Sam Hardy
839 Jack Parkinson
840 Sam Raybould
841 Tom Bromilow
842 Harry Chambers
843 Dick Forshaw
844 Bill Lacey
845 Ephraim Longworth
846 Donald McKinlay
847 Elisha Scott
848 Gordon Hodgson
849 Fred Hopkin
850 James Jackson
851 Jack Balmer
852 Ernest Blenkinsop
853 Tom Cooper
854 Willie Fagan
855 Alf Hanson
856 Berry Nieuwenhuys
857 Phil Taylor
858 Cyril Done
859 Laurie Hughes
860 Bill Jones
861 Ray Lambert
862 Billy Liddell
863 Bob Paisley
864 Jimmy Payne
865 Cyril Sidlow
866 Eddie Spicer
867 Albert Stubbins
868 Alan A'Court
869 Alan Arnell
870 Gerry Byrne
871 Bobby Campbell
872 Dave Hickson
873 Roger Hunt
874 Tommy Leishman
875 Jimmy Melia
876 Ronnie Moran
877 Bert Slater
878 Geoff Twentyman
879 Dick White
880 Johnny Wheeler
881 Tommy Younger
882 Alf Arrowsmith
883 Phil Boersma
884 Ian Callaghan
885 Ray Clemence
886 Alun Evans
887 Phil Ferns
888 Jim Furnell
889 Bobby Graham
890 Brian Hall
891 Tony Hateley
892 Chris Lawler
893 Tommy Lawrence
894 Kevin Lewis
895 Alec Lindsay
896 Doug Livermore
897 Larry Lloyd
898 Gordon Milne
899 John McLaughlin
900 Ian Ross
901 Tommy Smith
902 Willie Stevenson
903 Ian St.John
904 Geoff Strong
905 Peter Thompson
906 Peter Wall
907 Gordon Wallace
908 Ron Yeats
909 Jimmy Case
910 Avi Cohen
911 Peter Cormack
912 David Fairclough
913 Steve Heighway
914 Colin Irwin
915 David Johnson
916 Joey Jones
917 Kevin Keegan
918 Brian Kettle
919 Alan Kennedy
920 Ray Kennedy
921 Sammy Lee
922 Phil Neal
923 Steve Ogrizovic
924 Trevor Storton
925 Phil Thompson
926 Alan Waddle
927 Gary Ablett
928 John Barnes
929 Peter Beardsley
930 Dave Burrows
931 Howard Gayle
932 Gary Gillespie
933 David Hodgson
934 Mike Hooper
935 Glenn Hysen
936 Craig Johnston
937 Kevin MacDonald
938 Mike Marsh
939 Steve McMahon
940 Richard Money
941 Steve Nicol
942 Michael Robinson
943 Nigel Spackman
944 Paul Walsh
945 John Wark

Liverpool players?

[iamthelaw]

Because none of these players are good enough to deserve World Cup winners' medals (the omissions may be as controversial as the inclusions):

946. Gary Neville
947. Ashley Cole
948. Rio Ferdinand
949. Joe Cole
950. Sol Campbell
951. David James
952. Wayne Bridge
953. Peter Crouch
954. Owen Hargreaves
955. Jermaine Jenas
956. Michael Carrick
957. Aaron Lennon
958. Stewart Downing
959. Scott Carson

960. Because Sven isn't a good enough manager to deserve a World Cup winner's medal
961. Policemen wearing helmets
962. Gainsborough
963. Constable
964. Keats
965. Poems with the word "ode" in the title
966. TS Eliot
967. The notes at the end of TS Eliot's "The Waste Land"
968. TS Eliot's stupid poems about cats
969. Cats the musical

Because none of these Shakespeare "comedies" are funny:

970. All's Well That Ends Well
971. As You Like It
972. The Comedy of Errors
973. Cymbeline
974. Love's Labour's Lost
975. The Merchant of Venice
976. Merry Wives of Windsor
977. Much Ado About Nothing
978. Pericles, Prince of Tyre
979. The Tempest
980. Troilus and Cressida
981. Twelfth Night
982. The Two Gentlemen of Verona
983. The Winter's Tale
984. Measure For Measure

985. The latent anti-Semitism of The Merchant of Venice
986. The ending of King Lear
987. Captain Cook
988. Captain Bligh

[steamboatsam]

bandage said:

steamboatsam said:

831 Harry Bradshaw
832 Raby Howell
833 Joe McQue
834 Malcolm McVean
835 Alex Raisbeck
836 Ted Doig
837 Arthur Goddard
838 Sam Hardy
839 Jack Parkinson
840 Sam Raybould
841 Tom Bromilow
842 Harry Chambers
843 Dick Forshaw
844 Bill Lacey
845 Ephraim Longworth
846 Donald McKinlay
847 Elisha Scott
848 Gordon Hodgson
849 Fred Hopkin
850 James Jackson
851 Jack Balmer
852 Ernest Blenkinsop
853 Tom Cooper
854 Willie Fagan
855 Alf Hanson
856 Berry Nieuwenhuys
857 Phil Taylor
858 Cyril Done
859 Laurie Hughes
860 Bill Jones
861 Ray Lambert
862 Billy Liddell
863 Bob Paisley
864 Jimmy Payne
865 Cyril Sidlow
866 Eddie Spicer
867 Albert Stubbins
868 Alan A'Court
869 Alan Arnell
870 Gerry Byrne
871 Bobby Campbell
872 Dave Hickson
873 Roger Hunt
874 Tommy Leishman
875 Jimmy Melia
876 Ronnie Moran
877 Bert Slater
878 Geoff Twentyman
879 Dick White
880 Johnny Wheeler
881 Tommy Younger
882 Alf Arrowsmith
883 Phil Boersma
884 Ian Callaghan
885 Ray Clemence
886 Alun Evans
887 Phil Ferns
888 Jim Furnell
889 Bobby Graham
890 Brian Hall
891 Tony Hateley
892 Chris Lawler
893 Tommy Lawrence
894 Kevin Lewis
895 Alec Lindsay
896 Doug Livermore
897 Larry Lloyd
898 Gordon Milne
899 John McLaughlin
900 Ian Ross
901 Tommy Smith
902 Willie Stevenson
903 Ian St.John
904 Geoff Strong
905 Peter Thompson
906 Peter Wall
907 Gordon Wallace
908 Ron Yeats
909 Jimmy Case
910 Avi Cohen
911 Peter Cormack
912 David Fairclough
913 Steve Heighway
914 Colin Irwin
915 David Johnson
916 Joey Jones
917 Kevin Keegan
918 Brian Kettle
919 Alan Kennedy
920 Ray Kennedy
921 Sammy Lee
922 Phil Neal
923 Steve Ogrizovic
924 Trevor Storton
925 Phil Thompson
926 Alan Waddle
927 Gary Ablett
928 John Barnes
929 Peter Beardsley
930 Dave Burrows
931 Howard Gayle
932 Gary Gillespie
933 David Hodgson
934 Mike Hooper
935 Glenn Hysen
936 Craig Johnston
937 Kevin MacDonald
938 Mike Marsh
939 Steve McMahon
940 Richard Money
941 Steve Nicol
942 Michael Robinson
943 Nigel Spackman
944 Paul Walsh
945 John Wark

Liverpool players?

former liverpool players.

[iamthelaw]

steamboatsam said:

bandage said:

Liverpool players?

former liverpool players.

989. the phrase "Liverpool of old"

[eamo]

Take out John Barnes (best English player of his generation and legend), Peter Beardsley (next best English player of his generation and legend), Stevie Nicol (Scottish and legend) and Steve McMahon (legend and harmless) and I'll go along with that.

Great call on Phil Neal and Sammy Lee - I hate both of them

[iamthelaw]

990. Samuel Taylor Coleridge (poet)
991. Crispian Mills (of Kulashaker)
992. The name "Crispian"
993. The name "Tristan"
994. The name "Percy"
995. The name "Cecil"
996. Sir Lancelot stealing his best mate's girl
997. Guinevere (hussy)
998. Sir Walter Raleigh for laying his cloak over a puddle in front of Queen Elizabeth & setting a disastrous precedent.
999. Boadicea (for advancing feminism)
1000. The invasion of Ireland in 1171 by Henry II, supported by the English pope, and the subsequent breaches of the treaty signed then, kicking off 800 (well 745) yrs. of col. opp.

[cully]

1001. The london Marathon
1002. the pr*cks who passed me out whilst doing the london marathon
1003. the people who said 'come, on you should be running' when i was doing the london marathon
1004. the organisers of the london marathon for making it so long.

[iamthelaw]

cully said:

1001. The london Marathon
1002. the pr*cks who passed me out whilst doing the london marathon
1003. the people who said 'come, on you should be running' when i was doing the london marathon
1004. the organisers of the london marathon for making it so long.

Exalted. also:

1005. the organisers of the marathon in the 1908 olympics (in London) for extending the race by 385 yards (now incorporated into the official distance) so that the race would finish in front of the royal box.

[steamboatsam]

eamo said:

Take out John Barnes (best English player of his generation and legend), Peter Beardsley (next best English player of his generation and legend), Stevie Nicol (Scottish and legend) and Steve McMahon (legend and harmless) and I'll go along with that.

Great call on Phil Neal and Sammy Lee - I hate both of them

barnes deserves his place for being part of that rap song years ago and being a total shambles managing Celtic.

Beardsley deserves it for being the ugliest player of his, and many other, generations

the other two i just don't like so they'll have to stay in aswell. After all, the title of this threas is "reasons why I don't want Englan to win the world cup"

[iamthelaw]

1006. Carry On Sergeant
1007. Carry On Nurse
1008. Carry On Teacher
1009. Carry On Constable
1010. Carry On Regardless
1011. Carry On Cruising
1012. Carry On Cabby
1013. Carry On Jack
1014. Carry On Spying
1015. Carry On Cleo
1016. Carry On Cowboy
1017. Carry On Screaming
1018. Carry On ... Don't Lose your Head
1019. Carry On ... Follow that Camel
1020. Carry On Doctor
1021. Carry On up the Khyber
1022. Carry On Camping
1023. Carry On Again Doctor
1024. Carry On up the Jungle
1025. Carry On Loving
1026. Carry On Henry
1027. Carry On At Your Convenience
1028. Carry On Matron
1029. Carry On Girls
1030. Carry On Dick
1031. Carry On Behind
1032. Carry On England
1033. Carry On Emmanuelle
1034. Carry On Columbus
1035. Carry On London (not yet released I know but I object to the idea of it)
1036. Sid James
1037. Barbara Windsor

[therock67]

eamo said:

Take out John Barnes (best English player of his generation and legend), Peter Beardsley (next best English player of his generation and legend), Stevie Nicol (Scottish and legend) and Steve McMahon (legend and harmless) and I'll go along with that.

Great call on Phil Neal and Sammy Lee - I hate both of them

For some reason I always end up in disagreement with Eamo:

- Steve Nicol refused to wear an Ireland scarf in a photo at Kenilworth Road. He was posing for a photo with me and my brothers and I had an Ireland scarf on and he said "I'm not standing in the same photo as someone wearing that." My dad said "fair enough so" and didn't take the photo. Nicol tried to explain it away in the aftermath by saying he thought it was a Celtic scarf but that wouldn't have mattered anyway. Proper arsehole.

- Barnes I would include for the reason that he had the gall to imply on a BBC documentary that he was sacked from Celtic for race reasons. He says that it wasn't racist but it was because of the "dynamics of when a black manager is at a club." Transcript of programme from BBC website:

BARNES:
Kenny Dalglish was taken as technical director and he insisted on me coming. He trusted me, he knew me, we'd worked together before so he had belief in me. And although we won 12 of the first 13 or 14 matches, I realised very early on that you know if I lost a couple of matches, because everyone there wasn't fully behind, or wasn't, not necessarily supportive, they were supportive while I was there and they were behind me when I was there but they weren't all in favour of the appointment. So I knew that because they are not in favour of the appointment if I lose three or four of the matches that will just reinforce, yes, we've got the wrong man.

KING:
I think John Barnes' situation for me is what I call the one theory, black players are given one chance and that's it. I think John Barnes is a very interesting situation, here is a black player, that we've been told that he is probably the best role model we have had for 20 years, and if he makes it we can do it anywhere. The fact that he didn't make it at Celtic, maybe implicitly saying that black players are not ready at the moment.

MARSHALL:
John Barnes was sacked after only eight months and some poor results. You are not suggesting there was racism involved in Celtic's decision?

BARNES:
Not at all. In fact my Englishness seemed to be more of a problem than my blackness up there! But no, in no way was I accusing Celtic of racism but we are talking of the dynamics of when a black manager is at a club. In many respects it is unconscious. You know it's unconscious, you say to people, you tell people your ideas it is unconscious in terms of you can see do they actually believe what you are telling them. That is what I'm talking about. Not necessarily the Chairman, the directors, it's everybody concerned with the club. Ricky Hill was at Luton, as much as everyone loved Ricky as a player and may have loved me as a player, when you become a manager do they actually have the belief in what you are telling them?

[bandage]

1038. Dean Gaffney
1039. Sid Owen
1040. Patsy Palmer
1041. Setting up coups in foreign countries without checking whether it's what the people wanted in the first place then leaving them in the shit in the aftermath - Iran in the 1950s for example.
1042. Dr Leif Sward
1043. Their Davis Cup captains - Bates, Lloyd etc.
1044. Their shit female tennis players - Jo Durie etc.
1045. David Felgate - the guy that used to coach Henman - he was fired as Head Coach of the 'LTA' the other day for incompetence. Note again the use of 'LTA' rather than 'ELTA' - the pompous, arrogant fooks.
1046. Mark Petchey
1047. Those losers who queue up overnight in their Union Jack hats to watch Henman get battered every year.
1048. Gazza's tears.
1049. Gazza's fake boobs.
1050. Gazza's wife-beating.
1051. Dancing on Ice or whatever the fook it was called.
1052. Blair's stance on nuclear power - shut down Sellafield fooko.
1053. David Dein.

Great momentum today on this one guys.