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Post by therock67 on Jul 19, 2006 15:17:42 GMT
And Kloden counters. Pereiro is still there because him and Evans are gone with Kloden.
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 19, 2006 15:18:23 GMT
i'm going to miss it tonight on TG4, Fooking raging!!!
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 19, 2006 15:20:08 GMT
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Post by therock67 on Jul 19, 2006 15:22:45 GMT
Fair play to Sastre - he won't get yellow but he's blown this race apart. Kudos to Rasmussen obviously for his solo run but Sastre and the lads have destroyed Landis. When was the last time a non-team leader won the Tour?
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Post by therock67 on Jul 19, 2006 15:25:01 GMT
It doesn't work for me - tried it yesterday but I just get junk on the screen.
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 19, 2006 15:25:18 GMT
Fair play to Sastre - he won't get yellow but he's blown this race apart. Kudos to Rasmussen obviously for his solo run but Sastre and the lads have destroyed Landis. When was the last time a non-team leader won the Tour? Cant think of any of the top of my head, Ullrich when he backed up Rijs is the closest i can think off, he was baltantly better than Rijs that year but he had rein in himself (he won it the year after then!)
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Post by bandage on Jul 20, 2006 10:36:19 GMT
So who were the original team leaders for Perreira, Sastre and Kloeden and anyone else in the hunt? Am I correct in saying Ulrich would have been Kloeden’s. Who’s the best time trialist out of the leaders? And how bad are the climbs on today’s stage, are they over the worst of it after the last two days? It’s looking like a terrible misjudgement now the way they let Perreira make up 28 minutes on a flat stage. I assume he was never considered a great climber before and they thought he’d disappear in the Alps. Some effort by him to take the yellow back again if that’s the case.
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 20, 2006 10:50:53 GMT
So who were the original team leaders for Perreira, Sastre and Kloeden and anyone else in the hunt? Am I correct in saying Ulrich would have been Kloeden’s. Who’s the best time trialist out of the leaders? And how bad are the climbs on today’s stage, are they over the worst of it after the last two days? It’s looking like a terrible misjudgement now the way they let Perreira make up 28 minutes on a flat stage. I assume he was never considered a great climber before and they thought he’d disappear in the Alps. Some effort by him to take the yellow back again if that’s the case. Kloeden best time triallist, came in 8th for last TT Menchov 9th Evans 11th Sastre 18th and Dessel 38th only a minute covered Kloden to Sastre with Dessel 2 mins back (on Kloeden) So its all to play for, most wide open in years!!!
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 11:08:31 GMT
So who were the original team leaders for Perreira, Sastre and Kloeden and anyone else in the hunt? Am I correct in saying Ulrich would have been Kloeden’s. Who’s the best time trialist out of the leaders? And how bad are the climbs on today’s stage, are they over the worst of it after the last two days? It’s looking like a terrible misjudgement now the way they let Perreira make up 28 minutes on a flat stage. I assume he was never considered a great climber before and they thought he’d disappear in the Alps. Some effort by him to take the yellow back again if that’s the case. Pereiro's original leader was Valverde who was a favourite for many people pre-Tour. The rising star of cyclying. He crashed on the second or third stage or something and was hospitalised. Sastre's leader was Basso and Kloeden's was Ullrich. Not sure assumed the leadership of the various teams but I'd imagine Kloeden did and the other two didn't. Also worth a mention is Dessel in this context whose leader was Mancebo but he too was implicated in the Ullrich/Basso scandal. This is today's stage - still proper mountains with 2 Category 1 climbs and 1 super category climb. It was indeed a terrible misjudgement to let Pereiro get such a lead on the flat - they all presumed he'd fall apart in the mountains. They presumed the same about Dessel but it hasn't happened yet. To be fair to Phonak they got no help in chasing the leaders that day. T Mobile for example didn't help in the chase and that's why Kloeden isn't in yellow. Fantastic stuff from Pereiro though.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 11:35:32 GMT
The peloton is 10 mins behind Padrnos, O’Grady, Sinkewitz, Righi, Garate, Tankink, Halgand, Le Mevel, Auge, Gilbert and Paolini about half way up the first climb.
Phonak (Landis) in particular are driving the peloton at high speed
now Landis has injected real pace Landis, Kloden, Rogers, Evans, Sastre and Menchov are the only guys left in the peloton. They've burned the rest.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 11:41:14 GMT
13:38 - Landis Leads Yellow Jersey By 45" Landis is 6’00" behind the 11 stage leaders and 45" ahead of the yellow jersey’s group.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 11:43:23 GMT
I presume WOW is on lunch - this looks like spectacular stuff. I don't like Landis but fair play to him this is courageous stuff. The whole Phonak team seem to have set a blistering pace at the start of the climb and then Landis attacked on the back of that. The guy who was doing the pace setting for Landis has just abandoned the Tour - must have put in some effort. Race blown apart again.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 11:47:11 GMT
There has been a general regrouping behind Landis who is 5’15" behind the 11-man escape group. The Phonak team caption leads the yellow jersey’s group by 1’10".
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 12:41:14 GMT
14:06 - Yellow Jersey 3’25" Behind At the top of the first climb, the yellow jersey’s peloton is 3’25" behind Landis. Landis still have to catch the riders who escaped at the 12km mark. The stage leaders are 3’00" ahead of Landis on the descent...
14:22 - Yellow Jersey’s Group 4’50" At the start of the feedzone (97.5km) Landis was 1’05" behind the stage leaders. The peloton was at 4’50"..
14:27 - Landis Catches 10... Landis is about to catch Padrnos, O’Grady, Sinkewitz, Tankink, Le Mevel, Gilbert, Garate, Righi, Auge and Paolini.Landis took a sip of water as he rolled past the 10 others from the escape group. He then went straight to the front, had a quick word with Sinkewitz and set off in pursuit of Halgand. Landis caught the 10 leaders at the 102.5km mark.
14:32 - Four With Landis... Landis is now riding along with Righi, O’Grady, Sinkewitz and Garate. This is group is 1’44" behind Halgand; the peloton is 5’15" behind the stage leader.
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Post by whyohwhy on Jul 20, 2006 12:51:04 GMT
Access limited today, due to training in work.
Sickened.............looks like it'll be a cracker again
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 12:52:01 GMT
14:50 - Yellow Jersey’s Peloton 5’45" Behind... At the top of the 2nd climb, the yellow jersey’s peloton is 5’45" behind Halgand and 4’30" behind Landis’ group. Landis started the stage in 10th place, 8’08" behind Pereiro.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 13:02:42 GMT
15:00 - Two Following Landis... Early on the Col de la Colombiere, Landis has accelerated and dropped O’Grady and Padrnos. Only Sinkewitz and Righi are with the determined Phonak team leader.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:04:01 GMT
landis looking good but he could blow at anytime. he has eaten practically nothing which eurosport can't believe.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:10:10 GMT
landis just changed bike for no apparent mechanical reason and caught straight back with two ahead of him. looks very strong but long long way to go yet
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:17:14 GMT
landis going very hard now. a gap of nearly six minutes now. big area of difficulty for him will be flat part of 20km after this climb when peloton are likely to close. anyone know anything about time trail stage on saturday. how long is it and what could a rider gain/lose on that stage?
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:21:51 GMT
landis gap now of nearly seven minutes.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 13:32:19 GMT
landis going very hard now. a gap of nearly six minutes now. big area of difficulty for him will be flat part of 20km after this climb when peloton are likely to close. anyone know anything about time trail stage on saturday. how long is it and what could a rider gain/lose on that stage? The time trial is 57km. The earlier time trial was 52km and the top places were: STAGE STANDING BY POINTS Time of 1st : 1h 01' 43" Average : 50.553 Kilometres : 52.0 Pos. N° Name Surname Team Nat. Gaps 1 023 HONCHAR Serhiy TMO UKR 2 071 LANDIS Floyd PHO USA 01' 01" 3 044 LANG Sebastian GST GER 01' 04" 4 026 ROGERS Michael TMO AUS 01' 24" 5 156 LARSSON Gustav FDJ SWE 01' 34" 6 027 SINKEWITZ Patrik TMO GER 01' 39" 7 042 FOTHEN Marcus GST GER 01' 42" 8 021 KLÖDEN Andréas TMO GER 01' 43" 9 051 MENCHOV Denis RAB RUS 01' 44" 10 057 POSTHUMA Joost RAB NED 01' 45" 11 061 EVANS Cadel DVL AUS 01' 49" 12 096 KARPETS Vladimir CEI RUS 01' 52" 13 018 ZABRISKIE David CSC USA 01' 57" 14 024 KESSLER Matthias TMO GER 02' 03" 15 031 MOREAU Christophe A2R FRA 02' 04" 16 025 MAZZOLENI Eddy TMO ITA 02' 05" 17 079 PENA Victor Hugo PHO COL 02' 09" 18 014 SASTRE Carlos CSC ESP 02' 11" 19 009 SAVOLDELLI Paolo DSC ITA 02' 12" 20 157 LÖVKVIST Thomas FDJ SWE 02' 36" 21 072 GRABSCH Bert PHO GER 02' 38" 22 002 EKIMOV Viatceslav DSC RUS 02' 40" 23 097 PEREIRO SIO Oscar CEI ESP 02' 41" 24 003 HINCAPIE George DSC USA 02' 42" 25 178 ROUS Didier BTL FRA 02' 51" 26 008 RUBIERA José Luis DSC ESP 03' 06" 27 134 CHAVANEL Sylvain COF FRA 03' 06" 28 139 WIGGINS Bradley COF GBR 03' 10" 29 004 MARTINEZ Egoi DSC ESP 03' 13" 30 016 VANDEVELDE Christian CSC USA 03' 14" 31 184 GRIVKO Andriy MRM UKR 03' 15" 32 007 POPOVYCH Yaroslav DSC UKR 03' 17" 33 033 ASTARLOZA Mikel A2R ESP 03' 18" 34 022 GUERINI Giuseppe TMO ITA 03' 20" 35 151 CASAR Sandy FDJ FRA 03' 28" 36 129 ZUBELDIA Haimar EUS ESP 03' 32" 37 146 MILLAR David SDV GBR 03' 34" 38 035 DESSEL Cyril A2R FRA 03' 42" 39 084 BRUSEGHIN Marzio LAM ITA 03' 43" 40 082 BALLAN Alessandro LAM ITA 03' 49" So Landis made a minute and a half on Pereiro then.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:35:27 GMT
gap of eight minutes thrity five seconds now. pretty extraordinary. you have to wonder though if peloton are putting in full effort and if landis will crack dramatically like he did yesterday.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 20, 2006 13:35:44 GMT
This is unbelievable from Landis. 8 minutes he has taken now on yellow.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 20, 2006 13:44:31 GMT
9 minute gap now. if he can win this by that gap it will be absolutely amazing. peloton are starting to work hard not though. will be very hard for landis
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