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Post by therock67 on Jul 11, 2006 17:55:15 GMT
I don't know who I think will win it this year at this stage. Everyone I had any interest in - other than Mayo - has either injured themselves or didn't start. I don't know anything about Honchar but he seems to have had a cracking timetrial. I think that's his specialty though so he's probably a shit climber.
Kloden is still there isn't he? He outperformed Ullrich for T Mobile a couple of years back (finished second). No idea what his form is like but he's up there overall. Good all-rounder.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 11, 2006 18:00:30 GMT
I don't know who I think will win it this year at this stage. Everyone I had any interest in - other than Mayo - has either injured themselves or didn't start. I don't know anything about Honchar but he seems to have had a cracking timetrial. I think that's his specialty though so he's probably a shit climber. Kloden is still there isn't he? He outperformed Ullrich for T Mobile a couple of years back (finished second). No idea what his form is like but he's up there overall. Good all-rounder. yeah Kloden can be very impressive on ocassion but can also have very bad days. last year he let Ullrich down a few times if i remember correctly. might wait and see tomorrow's stage to see if anyone is worth sticking a few euro on |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 12, 2006 12:55:22 GMT
Typical.
14:51 (CET) - Mayo Feeble...
He has been dropped by the peloton early on the first major pass of the 2006 Tour. Not even his team-mate Etxebarria sees the point in waiting for him...
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Post by therock67 on Jul 12, 2006 12:59:34 GMT
The peloton continues to be led by the T-Mobile team which is 9’03" behind Mercado and Dessel. The riders in the yellow jersey’s group include: Five or six T-Mobile team-mates, Landis, Leipheimer, Hincapie, Moreau, Evans, Sastre, Zubeldia... and most of the overall favourites with the exception of Mayo who is being pushed by team-mates at the back of the peloton.
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Post by iamthelaw on Jul 12, 2006 22:00:51 GMT
Have really enjoyed what I've seen of the first week and a half of the Tour, some cracking sprint finishes. I know the Tour is really about the mountains, but the sprints showcase a different talent, and McEwen really is class in them at the moment. Even that stage that Freire won, Robbie came from absolutely nowhere to within a quarter of a wheel. Funniest thing is that a lot of his success this time seems to be due to the Quickstep team reeling in any breaks, for the benefit of their World Champion Tom Boonen, and yet Boonen invariably messes it up at the crucial moment. Every single time.
As for the general classification, I see Mayo finished 24 mins back today, and 17 mins back from the other leading contenders.
Kloden as mentioned earlier is the favourite, followed by Landis, Evans and Menchov.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 11:35:00 GMT
Today's stage  At the moment there are 4 riders out in front near the start of the first summit The move was started by De la Fuente (SDV). He was joined by Camano (EUS) and later by Wegmann (GST) and Flecha (RAB). Mayo (Eus) has already been dropped by the peloton and apparently he's on the verge of quitting the tour. He's the leader of Euskatel but Camano in this stage and Landaluze yesterday look like better hopes for the team. |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 11:36:56 GMT
Hincapie, Azevedo and Popovych are the only riders from the Discovery Channel team still in the yellow jersey’s peloton. The rest of the team have been dropped. Bad news for Hincapie.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 11:59:04 GMT
110km's to go breakaway are just over 5minutes ahead of main group.
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Post by bandage on Jul 13, 2006 12:13:28 GMT
That seems incredible that one of the climbing specialists and race favourites could lose 14 mins on the first mountain stage and then be completely dropped on the 1st climb of the next mountain stage. There must be an illness, injury or dare I say, drug related issue - by that I mean maybe he's drug free and this is more a true showing of his ability? Basso supporters please respond.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 12:19:32 GMT
Are you getting Basso and Mayo mixed up bandage? Piepiper any news on whether Mayo actually dropped out in the end or not? Are the front 4 still together as one group? Much support for Camano on the road?
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Post by bandage on Jul 13, 2006 12:27:08 GMT
Yeah I am. Is Mayo a climber or what? Should he be performing this poorly?
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 12:34:01 GMT
Mayo is a specialist climber and the Pyrenees is his home territory. The Euskaltel team are Basques and they do everything to try and win a stage in the Pyrenees because that's their home turf. Mayo is team leader and about 3/4 years back he was awesome because he used to attack on every mountain stage - very exciting. He won a stage in the Alps and finished 5th or something. 2 years ago he was in cracking form coming into the race but came nowhere - last year he did nothing. This year he was in great form again but he's being dropped in the mountains.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 12:45:55 GMT
four riders still out in front. two basques in that group.they are ahead of voeckler by 38 seconds and peloton by just under four minutes. 82km's to go.no idea about mayo rock but will update when i find out.
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 12:49:30 GMT
When you say there are two basques I presume only one of them is Euskaltel. Mayo must be injured or sick or something.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:00:18 GMT
no there were two basques form euskatel. camano from euskatel has just been dropped and voeckler about to catch him. i stuck a few bob on rasmussen for today's stage. they are on a very steep climb now and some of the riders are badly suffering |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 13:09:08 GMT
Is it not Camano, De La Fuente, Flecha and Wegmann who were on the break? I thought only Camano was a Euskaltel rider out of that grop?
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:09:09 GMT
De la Fuente and Wegmann out in front on their own now. mayo still in the race but is off the back of the main group
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:12:26 GMT
Popovych dropped from the main group. still 40 riders in the peloton. discovery are doing poorly
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 13:24:18 GMT
The peloton is led by six riders from the AG2R team. Included in this group are: Dessel, Gerrans, Moreau, Kloden, Rogers, Leipheimer, Boogerd, Rasmussen, Landis, Hincapie, Azevedo...
Recently dropped riders include: Pereiro, Popovych, Rubiera, Simoni, Da Cruz...
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 13:25:29 GMT
Camano and Voeckler have been caught by the peloton - they seem to be motoring now. Rasmussen might not be a bad bet if they can keep this pace up. What odds was he?
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:27:14 GMT
any other bets to highten my interest? would like to go for overall general classification and don't want to back an american. seems to be a very open race this year i emailed paddypower and they said they would put overall odds up tonight.David De La Fuente was first over mountain and looks strong so i stuck four euro on him at 14/1 also. not a bad bet imo. if you want me to stick a few quid on for you let me know |
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 13:34:56 GMT
Are you sure that your bet was for today's stage and not overall? I thought paddy power offered betting on the overall gc but not on individual stages.
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:41:37 GMT
Are you sure that your bet was for today's stage and not overall? I thought paddy power offered betting on the overall gc but not on individual stages. positive. they had nothing up on site until i emailed them and then they put odds for this stage up. interestingly their odds across the board almost without exception are much better than ladbrokes. here they are.Stage 11 (Tarbes - Val d'Aran) - BIR Stage Betting - BIR Bet now Quick bet M Rasmussen 9 - 4 A Kloden 6 - 1 * D de la Fuente 6 - 1 * C Evans 14 - 1 * C Moreau 14 - 1 * D Menchov 14 - 1 * F Landis 14 - 1 * C Sastre 16 - 1 * J Rujano 18 - 1 * Ja Gomez Marchante 22 - 1 * B G Hincapie 22 - 1 * Bet O Pereiro Sio 25 - 1 * Bet |
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Post by thepiedpiper on Jul 13, 2006 13:43:39 GMT
t mobile upping the pace big time. breaking up main group. kloden odds down to 4/1
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Post by therock67 on Jul 13, 2006 14:08:33 GMT
They are decent odds. I was looking at ladbrokes the other day and their prices were dreadful. 11/1 on Mayo to win a stage and each way pays out on top 3. There's a couple of hundred people in this race for Christ's sake it's not a horse race.
Was that 14/1 on de la Fuente a bet-in-running?
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