Irelands Most Hateful Person

[eamo]

I am not going to vote here because I hate them all the same...

But if I had to pick one then it would have to be O'Connor

But the RTE GAA football analysers together becasue they are all cut from the same cloth. Try to be very serious and controversial but know nothing about the game

Ditto with Keane and Seoige. Caught up in their own hype which is created by the Sunday Independent

[whyohwhy]

eamo said:

But the RTE GAA football analysers together becasue they are all cut from the same cloth. Try to be very serious and controversial but know nothing about the game
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They're there because they do.............

[therock67]

Brendan O'Connor by a country mile. What an utter chunt.

[lyonsee]

I'd love to give Lorraine Keane a pasting all the same.

Gerry Ryan should be in there. Jesus I hate that patronising cnut.

And the whole panel of that TV3 morning programme.

And Pat Fenlon.

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

But the RTE GAA football analysers together becasue they are all cut from the same cloth. Try to be very serious and controversial but know nothing about the game
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They're there because they do.............

I knew that you would stand up for Spillane. He said that his mother-in-law would run faster than Francie Bellew (he's so funny isnt he - gobsh1te) at half time in 2002 and Armagh came back and hammered the Kingdom in the second half. O'Rourke called Brian Dooher rubbish and he has been one of the best footballers in Ireland over the last few years. He said that Roscommon would beat Mayo last summer and Mayo destroyed them... they are so caught up in their own perceived self importance that they fail to even think about football and say the most controversial thing that comes into their head. But when they talk about football they talk rubbish. Definition of a spoofer. Cnuts.

[whyohwhy]

eamo said:

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

But the RTE GAA football analysers together becasue they are all cut from the same cloth. Try to be very serious and controversial but know nothing about the game
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They're there because they do.............

I knew that you would stand up for Spillane. He said that his mother-in-law would run faster than Francie Bellew (he's so funny isnt he - gobsh1te) at half time in 2002 and Armagh came back and hammered the Kingdom in the second half. O'Rourke called Brian Dooher rubbish and he has been one of the best footballers in Ireland over the last few years. He said that Roscommon would beat Mayo last summer and Mayo destroyed them... they are so caught up in their own perceived self importance that they fail to even think about football and say the most controversial thing that comes into their head. But when they talk about football they talk rubbish. Definition of a spoofer. Cnuts.

I wasnt standing up for Spillane, I was standing up for the three of them as a whole. They are there because they know a lot about the game having played it at the highest level.

Just like any other sports pannelists, they are there because they know about the game, we may not agree with their opinions but that's pretty irrelevant (ecxcept for Jim Beglin as he's a merchant banker).

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

whyohwhy said:

I knew that you would stand up for Spillane. He said that his mother-in-law would run faster than Francie Bellew (he's so funny isnt he - gobsh1te) at half time in 2002 and Armagh came back and hammered the Kingdom in the second half. O'Rourke called Brian Dooher rubbish and he has been one of the best footballers in Ireland over the last few years. He said that Roscommon would beat Mayo last summer and Mayo destroyed them... they are so caught up in their own perceived self importance that they fail to even think about football and say the most controversial thing that comes into their head. But when they talk about football they talk rubbish. Definition of a spoofer. Cnuts.

I wasnt standing up for Spillane, I was standing up for the three of them as a whole. They are there because they know a lot about the game having played it at the highest level.

Just like any other sports pannelists, they are there because they know about the game, we may not agree with their opinions but that's pretty irrelevant (ecxcept for Jim Beglin as he's a merchant banker).

That's rubbish. Just because they played at the heighest level doesn't mean that they know more about the game than any other county footballer. Kevin McStay, Martin Carney, John O'Mahony, Bernard Flynn, Anthony Tohill et al are fine.

Anyway their lack of knowledge isnt what really bugs me. Its their actual personalities. And the competition that seems to exist between the three to be the most controversial.

[cully]

eddie hobbs, god if i hear that lads voice again....

[cully]

i also fancy the corrs, less jim of course, but as the saying goes, 'once you're ok, twice you're gay!'

[whyohwhy]

eamo said:

Anyway their lack of knowledge isnt what really bugs me. Its their actual personalities. And the competition that seems to exist between the three to be the most controversial.

How can they have a lack of knowledge, RTE hardly randomly picked 3 ex footballers out of the hat and said 'wanna be a panelist?'? Joe Brolly may annoy me, even Spillane gets on my nerves and i think O'Rourke can be very dour. But they know what their on about, their records speaks for themselves.

Anyway Spillane has'nt been on with those two for about 2(ish) years as he was given the presenters slot on The Sunday Game highlights programme (with McStay, Tohill, Lyons and O'Mahoney at times), so i dont know how you see there to be competition between the three of em!

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

Anyway their lack of knowledge isnt what really bugs me. Its their actual personalities. And the competition that seems to exist between the three to be the most controversial.

How can they have a lack of knowledge, RTE hardly randomly picked 3 ex footballers out of the hat and said 'wanna be a panelist?'? Joe Brolly may annoy me, even Spillane gets on my nerves and i think O'Rourke can be very dour. But they know what their on about, their records speaks for themselves.

Anyway Spillane has'nt been on with those two for about 2(ish) years as he was given the presenters slot on The Sunday Game highlights programme (with McStay, Tohill, Lyons and O'Mahoney at times), so i dont know how you see there to be competition between the three of em!

I judge knowledge by what they say, not by what they have done in their careers. What you are saying is similar to saying that Liverpool will always be a great team becuase they were once great.

Spillane started the rot and O'Rourke and Brolly are more than happy to keep it going

Good call by Cully on Eddie Hobbs - he is bringing out a book now on what to do with your SSIA... fcuk off

[stickywithoutjam]

Bit shocked, where de hell is that Minister McDowell..the dark one.

One of the most hateful and painful public figures in this state >:(plus he has Ministerial power and is not afraid to abuse it in the name of the greater good!!

(As a non-national, some may say I have ulterior motives in castigating the Minister whose portfolio includes Immigrations & homeland security, but that is neither here nor there .)

[whyohwhy]

eamo said:

I judge knowledge by what they say, not by what they have done in their careers. What you are saying is similar to saying that Liverpool will always be a great team becuase they were once great.

Spillane started the rot and O'Rourke and Brolly are more than happy to keep it going

So what do you propose? Having some ordinary player who has won fcuk all, will toe the party line (i.e. 'sure aren't they all great players'), from some godforsaken county with no gaa heritage on the panel?

The reason RTE's analysts (for all their sports programmes) are good is because they have all been relatively successful and say what they want i.e. Giles, Dunphy, Mick Dowling, Jerry Kiernan, Hook & Popey, that swimmer fella, Eamon Coghlan. Compare them to BBC or ITV analysts (McCoist, Townsend, Guscott, Lineker, Hansen, Lawrenson, Venables, Sally Gunnell etc etc) and I'm fecking glad that Spillane et al are there

[therock67]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

I judge knowledge by what they say, not by what they have done in their careers. What you are saying is similar to saying that Liverpool will always be a great team becuase they were once great.

Spillane started the rot and O'Rourke and Brolly are more than happy to keep it going

So what do you propose? Having some ordinary player who has won fcuk all, will toe the party line (i.e. 'sure aren't they all great players'), from some godforsaken county with no gaa heritage on the panel?

The reason RTE's analysts (for all their sports programmes) are good is because they have all been relatively successful and say what they want i.e. Giles, Dunphy, Mick Dowling, Jerry Kiernan, Hook & Popey, that swimmer fella, Eamon Coghlan. Compare them to BBC or ITV analysts (McCoist, Townsend, Guscott, Lineker, Hansen, Lawrenson, Venables, Sally Gunnell etc etc) and I'm fecking glad that Spillane et al are there

You forgot to mention Garry O'Toole. RTE instructed him to not entertain any notion of Michelle Smith being on steroids so he dismissed the speculation on air. He later admitted that he had huge doubts but RTE told him to keep schtum.

In general though I do agree that they have pannelists who speak their mind. Giles was interviewed on Newstalk a couple of weeks back and he was asked why he thought RTE's analysis was better than English media. He just said "Well look at Sky. Jamie Redknapp - lovely lad by all accounts and I've nothing against him personally - but what in God's name is he going to tell us about football?"

[iamthelaw]

whyohwhy said:

The reason RTE's analysts (for all their sports programmes) are good is because they have all been relatively successful and say what they want i.e. Giles, Dunphy, Mick Dowling, Jerry Kiernan, Hook & Popey, that swimmer fella, Eamon Coghlan. Compare them to BBC or ITV analysts (McCoist, Townsend, Guscott, Lineker, Hansen, Lawrenson, Venables, Sally Gunnell etc etc) and I'm fecking glad that Spillane et al are there

Again, I agree that RTE analysts speak their mind, but must disagree in regard to the description of George Hook as "relatively successful"; the only success he ever had in rugby terms was in getting employed. Also, he rarely if ever provides any meaningful analysis, playing to the lowest common denominator & distracting from real & serious questions by telling irrelevant jokes.

[cully]

hooks analysis on rte is oftentimes just sensationalist, an effort to get a rise out of people. it makes for good viewing and is a darn sight more entertaining then listening to keith wood and jerry guscott come out with the same ridiculous cliches. if you ever read hook's written stuff it's usually pretty good.

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

I judge knowledge by what they say, not by what they have done in their careers. What you are saying is similar to saying that Liverpool will always be a great team becuase they were once great.

Spillane started the rot and O'Rourke and Brolly are more than happy to keep it going

So what do you propose? Having some ordinary player who has won fcuk all, will toe the party line (i.e. 'sure aren't they all great players'), from some godforsaken county with no gaa heritage on the panel?

The reason RTE's analysts (for all their sports programmes) are good is because they have all been relatively successful and say what they want i.e. Giles, Dunphy, Mick Dowling, Jerry Kiernan, Hook & Popey, that swimmer fella, Eamon Coghlan. Compare them to BBC or ITV analysts (McCoist, Townsend, Guscott, Lineker, Hansen, Lawrenson, Venables, Sally Gunnell etc etc) and I'm fecking glad that Spillane et al are there

I think RTE's sport coverage is excellent in general. Their soccer coverage is second to none and the rugby lads seem to know their stuff.

With regards to GAA, their coverage is poor. They have those three analysts, (Spillane may not be analysing anymore but he still chips in every now and again) and they make me want to turn off. They rarely predict anything right, they go along with the general consensus mainly but every now and again they come out with outlandish statements trying to be funny and controversial. My alternative is simply to get rid of the three and replace them with other county footballers, (theres a lot more than those three), who actually can predict games and talk about them intelligently, and dont try to be smart. Whyohwhy seems to be saying that because they played at the highest level then they cannot be questioned. I have questioned them for so long now that I find them deeply irritating and want to see the back of them.

Some examples of why I hate them:
Spillane: Where do I start? I remember seeing him on that forum thing that RTE have at their sports awards. He gave to Hook for 'going easy on the Irish team that were knocked out by France in the World Cup'. What would he know about rugby anyway? This year on the same thing I remembered him saying 'as we say in Kerry the bull is b0lloxed'. Of course he got a laugh.

Brolly: Slagged off Leitrim after their first half with Galway and said they were terrible and why do they turn up. We ran them close in the first half and only said it for the soundbite. O'Mahony was beside him and ripped into him. No true GAA man would say something like that.

O'Rourke: My main problem with him is that he trys to be the reasoned one but is the same as the others... the comment about Dooher springs to mind

[humbug]

Interview with Joe Brolly. Dermot Crowe Sindo 9 April. The words bollix, loquacious and effigy all appear in this article...Brolly is a legend

FIRST, a confession: I like Joe Brolly. I can't agree with his every pronouncement, but it's enjoyable listening as he skips along, clippety-clop, through the various stages of an argument, looking out occasionally over the top of his glasses. And there are so many Joes to choose from. Former Derry footballer. Television pundit. Criminal defence barrister. Father of four kids under five. Veteran forward for St Brigid's in Belfast.

The latter, you'll learn, is as important to him as any of the aforementioned. Only seven years in existence, St Brigid's draws from the affluent surrounds of the Malone Road, known as the Golden Mile. Already the adult team has jumped two divisions and Brolly is their senior figure, a child of the late '60s playing with many who were born in the mid-'80s. He dreads the thought of retirement and jokes about how he plans to kick capably with his right foot sometime within the next ten years.

Famously loquacious, he says that more people get on with him than don't. But he has rattled cages. A stranger spotted him on a train once and spat out the words "fucking bollix!" before moving along, satisfied that he'd got it off his chest. A few years ago outside Casement Park he was confronted by a posse of angry Tyrone males, one of whom threatened to break his jaw. "It wasn't fun," he says, serious for a moment.

When he described Kieran McDonald's braids as bearing resemblance to a "Swedish maid" the phones at Montrose hopped with rage. An indignant priest wrote a lengthy complaint to the local newspaper. Then you had Westmeath. After he declared that Meath would show them the realities of championship football, dismissing their prospects, the reaction was nuclear. A straw effigy of Brolly burned in the midlands.

Not to mention the mocking kisses he's blown to apoplectic fans of Tyrone and Donegal after scoring crushing goals in 1997 and '98. He was always capable of getting a reaction, but television has widened the scope for confrontation enormously. "It's great fun and keeps you in touch," he says of the medium. "I've found myself getting increasingly obsessed with Gaelic football and patterns of play, tactics, I find myself talking about it all the time. Also you get the red carpet rolled out - and I enjoy talking anyway."

We burn up an afternoon in the Wellington Park hotel in Belfast doing just that. His coffee goes cold as his tongue wags happily. He spends ages over his lunch, chewing between short pauses in the dialogue. It isn't difficult to see how a personality like his might grate on the nerves of demure Gaelic players who shelter behind cliche and are generally terrified of speaking their minds.

"I've a slightly irreverent personality but I don't think I'm outspoken," he asserts. "I don't try to be outspoken, try to be a shit-stirrer for the sake of it. Whenever I'm doing the Sunday Game there's no difference being there talking about the game or being in the pub talking about the game; it's exactly the same."

Like when Stephen Cluxton was sent off against Armagh in 2002 and Brolly opened up with both barrels. The 'keeper, he said, had been a "disgrace" and shouldn't be let wear the jersey again. Cluxton's act hit a raw nerve as he's a stickler for discipline. "The unforgivable sin is that mental indiscipline. For Dublin supporters coming out that day, for everything invested in that team, the game was theirs and then because one fella feels he wants to lash out, I mean, Jesus Christ, it would just drive you mental."

He has made peace with Tyrone, his long-time nemesis, largely because they've won All-Irelands and he's been effusive in his praise. But there were times when it was hot and he rubbed it in. He recalls in 1996 how Stephen Lawn went back to work in Derry on the Tuesday morning after their bruising championship defeat to Meath and every worker on the assembly line had his head bandaged up.

"I mean, there's nothing wrong with a bit of good-hearted mischief."

AGE has given Gaelic football added valuation for Brolly, as both player and spectator. He says that playing for St Brigid's is as fulfilling as any of his years with Derry. "You appreciate what the whole thing is really about, the ethos of giving rather than receiving, a good way of life that we can all subscribe to, a great community sport we all have."

Which leads us on to a topic he's eager to discuss - the role of the GPA. He accepts that there are valid issues that need to be addressed. The GAA could have been "more pro-active" and "claimed the ground". But if the GPA's current demands are met, then they will look for more - that's how he sees it. "The long term aim, whether it's the spoken aim or not, the inevitable outcome in their terms, is that all this is moving towards professionalism in some form or other."

This is not a picture he's comfortable with. Nor is he willing to accept that players lose out financially in any meaningful way. Players don't lose out on potential earnings? "I never encountered it. I was a self-employed barrister and I've made fortunes out of the bar, I was making fortunes when I was playing for Derry, it was only great for my profile. You had such a huge advantage over your colleagues because you were known. When you're in the self-employed marketplace, your big problem when young is that no one knows you. Through the games you're instantly known. Think of the privileged life I've had due to the simple fact that I was good at kicking a ball about.

"You're not playing Gaelic football so that your friend and neighbours, which essentially is what it boils down to, put their hands in their pockets and give you money. Why should you get money for doing what you love doing? It's not a business. The whole point about the GAA is that it's not a business, it's not set up as a business; that distinguishes it from other sports."

'You can't expect a living from playing Gaelic football, that's not what it's about. There are some things in life that are more important than money and the GAA is one of them'

How about the GPA-commissioned report that showed significant loss of potential earnings over the average career?

"Och that was just a complete load of bullshit. You find me one (sniggers) county player, one high profile county player, who has lost money because he's playing the game. I mean it's a load of crap, everyone knows it's a load of crap. It's a bit like what I would describe as a DUP argument. They can repeat it and repeat it and repeat it and eventually it'll get into the public consciousness but it's doesn't make it any less bullshit. But you can't disprove it."

He cites members of the Derry team that won the All-Ireland, how well they've done, and makes the point that people who work hard at their sport will tend to do the same in their ordinary working lives. They're not living hand to mouth. If you are losing money, he says, don't play.

"It's about choices in life. You can't expect a living from playing Gaelic football, that's not what it's about. This is much more important than money, there are some things in life that are more important than money and the GAA is one of them." It comes down to what he calls "competing philosophies". The view that the GAA can support some form of professionalism is valid, he accepts, but it flies in the face of all he believes in. "Do you believe that Gaelic games is something that players should be paid for or do you believe that playing in Croke Park is just another part of our way of expressing ourselves as a people?"

The GPA has repeatedly denied it is seeking pay for play. "They only say that because they know it's not palatable at the moment. But it's about establishing the principle."

They have a vision of that? "Why would they not have, I mean they wouldn't have much business sense if they didn't have. Surely they would only be delighted. I'll put it to you this way: they wouldn't reject it if it was offered. The ethos is pretty clear, it's about money, it's about garnering money ultimately.

"And I do think that things have been thrown in there simply to disguise the real purpose. You know, like the Mayo team have to pay for their own coach. There are emotive things like that thrown in that are difficult to argue with. You think that Kieran McGeeney cares - really - about the Mayo hurlers? Quote me on this: Kieran McGeeney doesn't give a shite about the Mayo hurlers.

"Perhaps the greatest irony about the GPA is the outward projection of selflessness, represented in the six demands, 'really, we've been driven to this, this is for the good of others, not for us, this is a selfless endeavour that we're on,' it's just totally risible - quote me on that."

He mentions having been at the launch of a new GAA club in Omeath recently and the voluntary effort that went into creating it, and the incalculable spin-offs for the local community it will bring. But would this change were the elite to be paid?

"It's a good point and I dare say that it wouldn't (change). But once the principle changes then the beauty of the thing is altered forever. It's the last great amateur sporting organisation. Nothing can touch us, we're unpolluted, I mean that and I feel that and it's one of the things I love most."

He pauses. "A sign of the times, that's what it is really. The Celtic Tiger has a lot to answer for. Quote me on that. Finish off with that."

THE arrival of complex tactical strategies in Gaelic football intrigues Brolly. He regards Tyrone and Armagh as "light years ahead" of the rest and expects Tyrone to dominate the game for the next decade, much like Kerry did in the past. Part of the problem for the rest of the field is that it has been slow to crack their tactical codes.

"Teams over the last three years have been coming off bewildered, shaking their heads, even people watching, because Tyrone disguise their systems and play very cleverly.

"Make no mistake, they (Tyrone) don't waste their time in training, their backroom team are tactical geniuses. Everything you see in a game is being done in training. There is no random training, there is no running about the pitch, there are no happy wee drills being done, but everything they do on the field is done on the training pitch.

"They don't play challenges because they don't want to give their system away, they don't talk about their systems. You talk to a Tyrone man and he'll say they dug deep in the second half. They say that all the time. I mean it's a complete load of bullshit, they jealously guard the secrets of their success. On top of that you don't play for Tyrone unless you're a good footballer."

When they win back the ball players fan out in concentric rings as they launch a counter-attack in what is essentially a defensive game, with a lethal retaliatory sting. Tyrone and Armagh play an 'entirely different' game

When Ryan McMenamin breaks up the field to score a point, it is not spontaneous, but painstakingly rehearsed. When the ball drops in midfield, everyone around has a role to fill. When they win back the ball players fan out in concentric rings as they launch a counter-attack in what is essentially a defensive game, with a lethal retaliatory sting. He says Tyrone and Armagh play an "entirely different" game to the rest.

"Dublin are playing conventional Gaelic football, Tyrone are playing a system that virtually guarantees them success until they come up against a team that's playing a similar system of play, that's equally astute tactically. The only meaningful battles that Tyrone had last year were against Armagh who played five half-backs. It turned into a war of attrition. It was a totally different level of football in terms of the tactics and strategy than anything else that's going on in Ireland.

"Tyrone don't have a higher work rate than other teams, it's just that they deploy their players in a more sensible way. They appear to be taking up conventional positions at the outset and try to get back to those at times and it helps conceal it." It's a new era and he's excited.

"You writing a book?" he says at one point, though it's not a complaint; he talks for a long time after that. The journey doesn't drag. We're out on the road, him at the wheel, shooting the breeze. Drive her on.

Dermot Crowe

[whyohwhy]

eamo said:

With regards to GAA, their coverage is poor. They have those three analysts, (Spillane may not be analysing anymore but he still chips in every now and again) and they make me want to turn off. They rarely predict anything right, they go along with the general consensus mainly but every now and again they come out with outlandish statements trying to be funny and controversial. My alternative is simply to get rid of the three and replace them with other county footballers, (theres a lot more than those three), who actually can predict games and talk about them intelligently, and dont try to be smart. Whyohwhy seems to be saying that because they played at the highest level then they cannot be questioned. I have questioned them for so long now that I find them deeply irritating and want to see the back of them.

Some examples of why I hate them:
Spillane: Where do I start? I remember seeing him on that forum thing that RTE have at their sports awards. He gave to Hook for 'going easy on the Irish team that were knocked out by France in the World Cup'. What would he know about rugby anyway? This year on the same thing I remembered him saying 'as we say in Kerry the bull is b0lloxed'. Of course he got a laugh.

Brolly: Slagged off Leitrim after their first half with Galway and said they were terrible and why do they turn up. We ran them close in the first half and only said it for the soundbite. O'Mahony was beside him and ripped into him. No true GAA man would say something like that.

O'Rourke: My main problem with him is that he trys to be the reasoned one but is the same as the others... the comment about Dooher springs to mind

So because Brolly slags Leitrim, you dont like him. Brolly also slagged Kerry but its his opinion, I dont like him for other reasons.

Spillane goes on a sports forum and comments on other sports, (do you think maybe that was why he was invited on it? to give comments on sports, like the other panellists were, perhaps?).

God forbive O'Rourke for trying to be reasoned, what a poor character trait!!!!!!!!!

You want panellists who can predict games..........think about that..........i cant think of anyone who has correctly predicted their own sports matches correctly consistently......... if games can be predicted why have them?.

I have no problem with them being questioned, but I think your reasons for questioning them are wrong

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

eamo said:

With regards to GAA, their coverage is poor. They have those three analysts, (Spillane may not be analysing anymore but he still chips in every now and again) and they make me want to turn off. They rarely predict anything right, they go along with the general consensus mainly but every now and again they come out with outlandish statements trying to be funny and controversial. My alternative is simply to get rid of the three and replace them with other county footballers, (theres a lot more than those three), who actually can predict games and talk about them intelligently, and dont try to be smart. Whyohwhy seems to be saying that because they played at the highest level then they cannot be questioned. I have questioned them for so long now that I find them deeply irritating and want to see the back of them.

Some examples of why I hate them:
Spillane: Where do I start? I remember seeing him on that forum thing that RTE have at their sports awards. He gave to Hook for 'going easy on the Irish team that were knocked out by France in the World Cup'. What would he know about rugby anyway? This year on the same thing I remembered him saying 'as we say in Kerry the bull is b0lloxed'. Of course he got a laugh.

Brolly: Slagged off Leitrim after their first half with Galway and said they were terrible and why do they turn up. We ran them close in the first half and only said it for the soundbite. O'Mahony was beside him and ripped into him. No true GAA man would say something like that.

O'Rourke: My main problem with him is that he trys to be the reasoned one but is the same as the others... the comment about Dooher springs to mind

So because Brolly slags Leitrim, you dont like him. Brolly also slagged Kerry but its his opinion, I dont like him for other reasons.

Spillane goes on a sports forum and comments on other sports, (do you think maybe that was why he was invited on it? to give comments on sports, like the other panellists were, perhaps?).

God forbive O'Rourke for trying to be reasoned, what a poor character trait!!!!!!!!!

You want panellists who can predict games..........think about that..........i cant think of anyone who has correctly predicted their own sports matches correctly consistently......... if games can be predicted why have them?.

I have no problem with them being questioned, but I think your reasons for questioning them are wrong

Ah here I give up... how do you argue with that? Suffice to say I dont like them

[whyohwhy]

Woohoo ;D


Go on smite me while your at it

[bandage]

Voted for O'Connor there. It's funny that the take away Istanbul on Baggot Street has a big banner on their front door saying 'Best kebab in Dublin according to the Sunday Independent's Brendan O'Connor.' If you head inside there are framed extracts of a 'Brendan Bites' article from that rag of a paper where he eulogised over the Istanbul's kebabs. It's now become a running joke where I go in there locked on my way home (whether I'm getting food or not) to complain about the banner and to try convince the lads to take it down. Typically, I'd say that smug, conceited, self important, fat fook is losing rather than gaining you business and the lads just laugh nervously at me. The other night I was in the middle of a tirade against BO'C to the 3 lads behind the counter when who walks in only Colin Murphy of Blizzard of Odd fame. I drunkenly told Colin about my plight and he goes, 'Dead right - he's a big, fat c**t!'

True story.

[whyohwhy]

bandage said:

Voted for O'Connor there. It's funny that the take away Istanbul on Baggot Street has a big banner on their front door saying 'Best kebab in Dublin according to the Sunday Independent's Brendan O'Connor.' If you head inside there are framed extracts of a 'Brendan Bites' article from that rag of a paper where he eulogised over the Istanbul's kebabs. It's now become a running joke where I go in there locked on my way home (whether I'm getting food or not) to complain about the banner and to try convince the lads to take it down. Typically, I'd say that smug, conceited, self important, fat fook is losing rather than gaining you business and the lads just laugh nervously at me. The other night I was in the middle of a tirade against BO'C to the 3 lads behind the counter when who walks in only Colin Murphy of Blizzard of Odd fame. I drunkenly told Colin about my plight and he goes, 'Dead right - he's a big, fat c**t!'

True story.

But is it a good kebab?

Colin Murphy is funny for a nordie!

[stickywithoutjam]

No he's not.

He's from Downpatrick.

Raise the bar YoY

[iamthelaw]

whyohwhy said:

But is it a good kebab?

excellent kebab imo.
though I've never had one there sober