1966 Reasons why I don't want Englan to win WC2006

[pagey]

Point 256 should be removed, it had nothing to do with England, It was the British Empire and it was the Romans who were ultimately responsible long before the British took it over after WW1.

[whyohwhy]

pagey said:

Point 256 should be removed, it had nothing to do with England, It was the British Empire and it was the Romans who were ultimately responsible long before the British took it over after WW1.

But it was the British who focked off and left the place in a shambles. (I'm no historian myself, but i read those Leon Uris books, exodus etc etc, about the place and that was my impression), so do correct me if I'm wrong.

I do see that we have a problem differentiating between England & Britain in this thread

[therock67]

whyohwhy said:

admin said:

See if we can get this list up to 1,966 before the world cup starts

31. Dublin and Monaghan bombings

75. Gordon Ramsay

I think these should be taken out;

The bombings had nothing to do with England directly (maybe collusion between British Army and Loyalists, but nothing directly to do with England).

Gordon Ramsay is a Scottish cnut, I believe

I will get rid of Gordon Ramsay. The Dublin and Monaghan bombings were, at best, tolerated by the London government at the time and possibly encouraged. It is difficult to separate Britain from England in some instances but I'm not going to absolve the English from blame in a problem they created and a problem they sought to end through criminal interference in the affairs of another nation.

[whyohwhy]

admin said:

whyohwhy said:

It is difficult to separate Britain from England in some instances but I'm not going to absolve the English from blame in a problem they created and a problem they sought to end through criminal interference in the affairs of another nation.

So, for future reference are we saying Britain=England, except where the reason is clearly Scottish, Welsh or Norn Iron?

[therock67]

282. Richard Littlejohn
283. Wolf (the Gladiator)
284. Vanessa
285. Trisha

[therock67]

whyohwhy said:

admin said:

whyohwhy said:

It is difficult to separate Britain from England in some instances but I'm not going to absolve the English from blame in a problem they created and a problem they sought to end through criminal interference in the affairs of another nation.

So, for future reference are we saying Britain=England, except where the reason is clearly Scottish, Welsh or Norn Iron?

Whatever you want to include yourself. If you don't want England to win a world cup because you believe them responsible for the ills of Palestine then include it. If you reckon it's unfair to blame it all on the English then maybe don't. If someone or something is obviously Scottish or Welsh then leave them out obviously.

[eamo]

286. Richard Blackwood - probably the biggest gobsh1te the country has ever produced
287. Those guys you always see coming on these celebrity programmes giving their smarmy opinion. The guy who presented the 11 o'clock show is one - Iain Lee is the fcuker's name
288. It shouldn't happen to a TV presenter 14
289. Keeping Up Appearences - rubbish
290. The Daily Mail

[cully]

291. 'awooga' as shouted by john fashanu at the start of gladiators, infuriating stuff and only acted to detract from the smashing ulrika johnson, as she was back then.
292. how a country's male population can adopt david beckham's new hairstyle in a matter of days
293. david baddiel
294. being gracious in defeat when we beat them in Twickenham this year, i was obnoxious anyways.
295. matt dawson, probably already said but worthy of another mention
296. kilroy
297. pimms
298. red buses
299. traffic congestion charge, bloody good idea though
300. that guy who trapped michael jackson on the itv interview, ruined jacko
301. going for gold
302. not having ads on the bbc

[humbug]

303. Jonathan Wilkes (famous for being a friend of Robbie Williams).

[therock67]

304. James I
305. Burberry
306. Vivienne Westwood
307. Trooping the colour

[eamo]

I think that it going to be hard to reach 1,966

308. Chris Martin (gobsh1te in an overrated band imo)
309. Thom Yorke (gobsh1te in a quality band imo, but a gobsh1te nonetheless)
310. A country that fights for Jaime Redknapp to be a soccer analyst
311. Harry Redknapp (again worth ten votes)
312. The way Frank Bruno said 'Arry
313. Austin Healey
314. Man Utd
315. Bobby Charlton
316. Jack Charlton

[therock67]

317. Mick McCarthy (controversial!)

[whyohwhy]

318. Sam Allardyce
319. Bolton
320. Ricky Gervais (post Office days)
321. Steve McClaren (well we have to now)
322. Piers Morgan
323. Boris Johnson
324. The changing of the Guard
325. Inate superiority complex
326. Greenwich Mean Time
327. British Naval Power
328. Babyshambles
329. Kate Moss (who cares anymore)

[therock67]

330. Heysel
331. Imprisonment of Oscar Wilde
332. The Treaty

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The Execution of:
333. Oliver Plunkett
334. Robert Emmett
335. Roger Casement
336. Tom Clarke
337. James Connolly
338. Sean MacDermott
339. Padraic Pearse
340. William Pearse
341. Thomas MacDonagh
341. John MacBride
342. Michael An Gof (Cornish rebel)
343. Saint Edmund Campion (Catholic martyr)
344. Joseph Plunkett
345. Edward Daly
346. Michael O'Hanrahan
347. Eamonn Ceannt
348. Michael Mallin
349. Cornelius Colbert
350. Sean Heuston
351. Thomas Kent

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352. Stuart Pearce
353. John Prescott
354. Edwina Currie
355. John Major

[therock67]

eamo said:

286. Richard Blackwood - probably the biggest gobsh1te the country has ever produced
287. Those guys you always see coming on these celebrity programmes giving their smarmy opinion. The guy who presented the 11 o'clock show is one - Iain Lee is the fcuker's name
288. It shouldn't happen to a TV presenter 14
289. Keeping Up Appearences - rubbish
290. The Daily Mail

Eamo - can we get a different #290 from you? The Daily Mail is already # 52.

[humbug]

356. "They think it's all over"...the commentary.
357. They Think It's All Over...the TV show
358. David Gower
359. Nick Hancock
360. The mystery guest round from They Think It's All Over
361. Jonathon Ross
362. Lily Savage
363. Julian Clary
364. Double entendres uttered by numbers 361 to 363 inclusive
365. Saying "trod on" instead of "stepped on" when they step on something.
366. Saying "somefink" instead of "something"
367. Saying "free" instead of "three"
368. The word "nought"
369. Fred Elliot
370. Betty's Hot Pot
371. Jellied Eels
372. Why Don't You?
373. The Blue Peter Time Capsule
374. Live Aid (the first one)
375. Live Aid (the second one)
376. Blue Peter appeals
377. Blue Peter badges
378. Grange Hill

[eamo]

whyohwhy said:

318. Sam Allardyce
319. Bolton
320. Ricky Gervais (post Office days)
321. Steve McClaren (well we have to now)
322. Piers Morgan
323. Boris Johnson
324. The changing of the Guard
325. Inate superiority complex
326. Greenwich Mean Time
327. British Naval Power
328. Babyshambles
329. Kate Moss (who cares anymore)

Ricky Gervais (post Office days)

Great call whyohwhy. Started to believe his own hype
I will exalt you for that

[eamo]

admin said:

eamo said:

286. Richard Blackwood - probably the biggest gobsh1te the country has ever produced
287. Those guys you always see coming on these celebrity programmes giving their smarmy opinion. The guy who presented the 11 o'clock show is one - Iain Lee is the fcuker's name
288. It shouldn't happen to a TV presenter 14
289. Keeping Up Appearences - rubbish
290. The Daily Mail

Eamo - can we get a different #290 from you? The Daily Mail is already # 52.

290. Jeffrey Archer - anybody see him on the Late Late last Friday? The only think more pathetic than him was Pat Kenny's blatant attempt not to offend the fcuker

[therock67]

eamo said:

admin said:

Eamo - can we get a different #290 from you? The Daily Mail is already # 52.

290. Jeffrey Archer - anybody see him on the Late Late last Friday? The only think more pathetic than him was Pat Kenny's blatant attempt not to offend the fcuker

That was crazy. The Plank went out of his way to be Archer's buddy - appalling television.

Good call on Archer though.

[whyohwhy]

379. Not apologising for the famine

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Just changed the number - tr67

[whyohwhy]

380. Cricket whites
381. St Georges Day
382. Royal weddings

[therock67]

383. Rudyard Kipling
384. Robert Kilroy Silk
385. Damon Hill
386. Jimmy Carr
387. Iain Dunca Smith
388. The spelling Shaun
389. Children in Need

[iamthelaw]

I've checked the list, but apologies if I repeat any nonetheless.

390. Kenneth Branagh
391. Rupert Brooke ("there is some corner of a foreign field/That is forever England"
392. Shelley
393. Milton
393. Andrew Lloyd Webber
394. James Blunt
395. Guy Ritchie
396. Charlotte Bronte
397. Emily Bronte

398. Pride and Prejudice the TV serial (the book is already covered under no 127)
399. Merchant-Ivory films
400. Brideshead Revisited
401. Elgar (especially "Pomp and Circumstance")
402. Benjamin Britten
403. Tim Henman (may have been covered, but I can't see it; 39. Henman Hill is something different really)
404. Queen's (tennis) Tournament at Nottingham
405. The Varsity Match
406. Will Young
407. Linford Christie
408. Sally Gunnell
409. "Chariots of Fire"
410. The Turner Prize
411. Edwina from "Absolutely fabulous"
412. Patsy from "Absolutely fabulous"
413. "stiff upper lip"
414. Nobby Styles
415. Alf Ramsey's "animals" comment about Argentina
416. 10-man rugby (Dean Richards/ Geoff Cooke etc)
417. Will Carling
418. Jeremy Guscott
419. Rory Underwood
420. Tony Underwood
421. Rob Andrew
422. Kyran Bracken (English by choice)
423. The Duke of Wellington (for being brought up in Ireland and yet declaring himself English stating "If I were born in a stable that would not make me a horse")
424. Never shutting up about the Battle of Britain
425. The bombing of Dresden
426. "The King's/Queen's English"
427. The Queen's birthday (the official one)
428. "Celebrity" Big Brother
429. I'm a "Celebrity" get me out of here
430. Ant
431. Dec

[therock67]

Burberry is #305 so can we get a new #406? Can't believe James Blunt didn't get a mention before now - shame on us all.

[iamthelaw]

admin said:

Burberry is #305 so can we get a new #406?

Done. Also:

432. Gareth Gates
433. Harry Potter

Is that Brian Moore the commentator or Brian Moore the rugby player at 191? Just want to make sure the latter is included.

And I think Austin Healey features at 128 and 313; is he featuring once for the 2003 Lions tour and once for his hair, or does one of those entries relate to the car?