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Post by cully on May 11, 2006 10:33:29 GMT
I'd be interested to hear what people think of this. Personally i think he is a good manager, his record over the past few seasons with porto and now chelsea, 4 championships in a row, is impressive. However, surely his championships with chelsea are largely down to the vast resources he has available. His squad cost approx 250m (am open to correction on that) and yet they amassed just 8 points more than Utd and 9 more than Liverpool, whose squads would have cost considerably less, i'm guessing in or around 100m less in some cases (again open to correction on these guesstimates). So would Rafa or even Mark Hughes (Blackburn amassed 62 pts) not have a greater argument for coach of the season based on league points per million £ spent? In a sport in which success is largely due to wealth, points per million spent should be a greater indicator of a managers worth, no ?
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Post by lyonsee on May 11, 2006 11:05:29 GMT
Wouldn't have given it to Mourinho for reasons along the same lines as you outlined above Cully. A spokesman for whoever gives the award said he showed how ''tactically astute'' he was again this season. Utter bollox. Boring, rigid but effective formation and practically unlimited money to spend ridiculous sums on players like Essien. Things not going so well so he brings Huth on as an extra striker and lobs long balls toward him. Tripe. You'd have to question why he continues to play Drogba ahead of Crespo and why SWP rarely got a run too. He also purchased Del Horno who turned out to be muck and will most likely be sold (unless Gallas goes, as seems likely). As I sang i Old Trafford at the top of my voice when Liverpool dumped them out of the cup 'fuck off Mourinho'.
My vote would probably go to Martin Jol for the record. He's put together an exciting young squad, brought the best out of Robbie Keane, got Ledley King to sign a new deal when I'd say Arsenal were sniffing around and led Spurs to their highest finish since the Premiership began (I'm aware that league football began long before then btw).
Honourable mentions to Jewell and Pardew.
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Post by eamo on May 11, 2006 11:20:42 GMT
In the last four years Mourinho has won four leagues, a Champions League and a UEFA cup. That is hugely impressive by any standards. However the question is asking whether or not he deserves Premiership manager of the year this year. I was listening to Giles last Saturday, and he, Mourinho biggest critic, said that he should get it due to the fact that they won the league. I dont necessarily agree for once with the great man. I think Mourinho this year has been poor. They won the league by 8 points with a vastly superior budget to any rivals - true they did slow up at the end. Against Barca they never looked like they were even going to challenge. He brought on Huth again unbelieveably. Then his shocking line-up versus Liverpool in the cup was unbelievable.
As to who I would give it to, I dont like Pardew, although he has done well. Hughes got 62 points with Blackburn!! That is some achievement. I would probably give it to Jewell, a likeable, honest manager who defied all the odds and not only kept Wigan up but kept them in the top half all season. Also fair play to him for not spending all Dave Whelan's money, unlike Redknapp the fraud. Paul Jewell for me.
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Post by steamboatsam on May 11, 2006 12:40:06 GMT
In my view Jewell, Hughes, Pardew, Jol, Benitez have all outperformed Mourinho in terms of management. Unfortunately the winner of the Barclays Premiership is always likely to pick up the Barclays manager of the year. From the sponsors point of view it's always better to be linked to a perceived "winner" like Mourinho, particularly someone with his profile, rather than someone who took a C'ship team to a top half finish by making them play attractive attacking football.
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Post by bandage on May 11, 2006 21:38:14 GMT
Mourinho must be a good manager purely for his deeds at Porto. But to make him manager of the year for this season is plain wrong imo. He basically got found out tactically in Europe by Barcelona (Robert Huth upfront again!) and in the FA Cup against Pool (played four central midfielders to combat Gerrard, Alonso and Sissoko with the effect that Kewelll murdered them down the left wing). His feat in winning the League is hardly comparable with what the other managers mentioned already have achieved but I think Steamer may have a point about the sponsors wanting to be associated with Chelsea as winners. As far as I know the title is the Barclays Manager of the Year so the award may only apply to the Premiership so in that case his shortcomings in Europe and in the Cup may not have been taken into consideration.
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Post by eamo on May 12, 2006 10:27:45 GMT
Mourinho must be a good manager purely for his deeds at Porto. But to make him manager of the year for this season is plain wrong imo. He basically got found out tactically in Europe by Barcelona (Robert Huth upfront again!) and in the FA Cup against Pool (played four central midfielders to combat Gerrard, Alonso and Sissoko with the effect that Kewelll murdered them down the left wing). His feat in winning the League is hardly comparable with what the other managers mentioned already have achieved but I think Steamer may have a point about the sponsors wanting to be associated with Chelsea as winners. As far as I know the title is the Barclays Manager of the Year so the award may only apply to the Premiership so in that case his shortcomings in Europe and in the Cup may not have been taken into consideration. Smashing stuff Bandage. You put it in a nutshell. |
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Post by cully on May 12, 2006 14:41:05 GMT
get your head out of bandage's arse eamo will you
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Post by eamo on May 12, 2006 15:28:09 GMT
get your head out of bandage's arse eamo will you I'm there to stay |
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